New Babylon 5 Movie News

[Entil'Zha]

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=7515


Babylon 5 Movie Starts Filming in April
Source: Production Weekly December 8, 2004


Steven Beck will direct a big screen adaptation of the popular sci-fi TV series Babylon 5. The movie, titled The Memory of Shadows, is intended for theatrical release and was written by series creator J. Michael Straczynski. Production Weekly reports that the project starts filming this April in the UK.

In "Shadows," the technology of the ancient and extinct Shadow race is being unleashed upon the galaxy by an unknown force, and Earthforce intelligence officer Diane Baker, whose brother was recently killed in a mysterious explosion, it out to find out who is behind the intergalactic conspiracy.

Joining her is Galen, a techno-mage who has been charged with keeping the technology out of the hands of those who would abuse it.

[HuntSmacker]

Lets just say I think everyone heard me shout "YESSS"

[Phi]

oh, well, that's nice :)

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*happy happy happy dance* :D :D :D

-Φ

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Phi
oh, well, that's nice :)

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*happy happy happy dance* :D :D :D

-Φ

I was rather hoping for something with the orig cast.. but I can't wait to see it.

[HuntSmacker]

The original cast are (although unconfirmed, and at least some) going to be a part of it.

[samuelk]

Completely out of left field comes big details on the Babylon 5 feature Film Babylon 5: The Memory of Shadows from Comingsoon.net (http://www.comingsoon.net/news/topnews.php?id=7515):

Babylon 5 Movie Starts Filming in April
Source: Production Weekly
December 8, 2004


Steven Beck will direct a big screen adaptation of the popular sci-fi TV series Babylon 5. The movie, titled The Memory of Shadows, is intended for theatrical release and was written by series creator J. Michael Straczynski. Production Weekly reports that the project starts filming this April in the UK.

In "Shadows," the technology of the ancient and extinct Shadow race is being unleashed upon the galaxy by an unknown force, and Earthforce intelligence officer Diane Baker, whose brother was recently killed in a mysterious explosion, it out to find out who is behind the intergalactic conspiracy.

Joining her is Galen, a techno-mage who has been charged with keeping the technology out of the hands of those who would abuse it.

[Mundane]

Galen!!!

[Akrovah]

Galen!, Galen!, Galen!, Galen!, Galen!, Galen!

Hmmm. Drak war perhaps? though they wouldn't exactly be mysterious anymore would they? Some one new then. This is going to be awsome

*Joins Happy Happy dance*

[Mundane]

Steven Beck

hmm....IMDB just gives "Alma Mater"

[Biggles]

Looks like we're getting the Crusade story.

Who's Steven Beck?

[Mundane]

Originally posted by Biggles
Looks like we're getting the Crusade story.

Who's Steven Beck?

check IMDB...
only mentioned as an "associative producer" on "Alma Mater"

[-Marty-]

It's probably a typo... Steve Beck, not Steven Beck, even though that Beck guy doesn't have an impressive CV either.

[Falcon1]

Hmmm... interesting. Having Galen in it would be very cool! I wonder how accurate this report is though? Just curious as JMS said nothing in his recent post... then again he probably couldn't.

[croxis]

weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Falcon1
Hmmm... interesting. Having Galen in it would be very cool! I wonder how accurate this report is though? Just curious as JMS said nothing in his recent post... then again he probably couldn't.

All i know, is that i'm really excited about B5 again, and think its about time to start watching the series over.

the only problem is, once i get done watching them all, its like depressing, cause it was SO good, and its over.

[WORF]

Excellent. Everything is proceeding as I have forseen.

Worf

[Rhett]

Originally posted by WORF
Excellent. Everything is proceeding as I have forseen.

Worf

Thats cryptic... you have a crystal ball or something? :D

Oh yea, AWESOME news about our favorite show!

[E.T]

Woohooo! :) :) :)

[Vertigo1]

*chants* Please don't end up like "Legend of the Rangers".....

[SpiritOne]

*joins vertigo* "Please dont end up like legend of the Rangers"

anyhoo.. WOOT!

[Alaric]

yippeeee!!!!

[Akrovah]

Originally posted by -Marty-
It's probably a typo... Steve Beck, not Steven Beck, even though that Beck guy doesn't have an impressive CV either.

I agree that niether is thrilling me right now, although one has atleast directed something before. I have not seen 13 Ghosts, but Ghost Ship did not impress me at all.

Hopefully we will find out which one it is soon so we may scoure the net for anything else he may have doen that isn't on IMDB.

[David of Mac]

Originally posted by Entil'Zha
...Earthforce intelligence officer Diane Baker, whose brother was recently killed in a mysterious explosion, it out to find out who is behind the intergalactic conspiracy.


So, does someone else want to begin the traditional pointing out of recycled character elements, or shall I? ;)

[WORF]

Originally posted by rhett
Thats cryptic... you have a crystal ball or something? :D

The truth points to itself.

I wonder how long until the movie is released, of course I want to see it right now but I also think it would be better if they take their time, even if it means waiting 2-3 years.

Worf

[Random Chaos]

News at last.

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AND WHAT GOOD NEWS IT IS! :D :D :D :D :D

[Mungrel]

Good news for once :D


Originally posted by Akrovah
I have not seen 13 Ghosts.

I liked 13 ghosts. Not bad for a modern horror.

[Rhett]

Originally posted by WORF
The truth points to itself.


Ahh, thank you for my cryptic vorlon sentance for the day... :angryv:

[RubberEagle]

Originally posted by WORF
The truth points to itself.

I wonder how long until the movie is released, of course I want to see it right now but I also think it would be better if they take their time, even if it means waiting 2-3 years.

Worf
My bet is on Spring 2006, if they start shooting in April. They'll probably be finished with the shoot June/July, and that leaves plenty of time for post production. (It might be even possible that they'll be releasing it on the same day that TG first premiered, though I don't think that WB(movie division) would go for that..)

[Mundane]

Originally posted by Akrovah
I agree that niether is thrilling me right now, although one has atleast directed something before. I have not seen 13 Ghosts, but Ghost Ship did not impress me at all.

Hopefully we will find out which one it is soon so we may scoure the net for anything else he may have doen that isn't on IMDB.

Did you see what I saw?

The Hunt for Red October (1990) (visual effects art director: ILM)
The Abyss (1989) (effects art director: ILM)

ILM = Industry Light & Magic?

Sounds interesting :)

[Falcon1]

So if they're gonna start shooting in April I assume JMS was over here in the UK getting the pre-production stuff set up? Checking out the studios etc?

[sinclair]

Damn great news!

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by RubberEagle
My bet is on Spring 2006, if they start shooting in April. They'll probably be finished with the shoot June/July, and that leaves plenty of time for post production. (It might be even possible that they'll be releasing it on the same day that TG first premiered, though I don't think that WB(movie division) would go for that..)


cant wait.....want to see now...must get time machine...

[Akrovah]

Originally posted by Mundane
Did you see what I saw?

The Hunt for Red October (1990) (visual effects art director: ILM)
The Abyss (1989) (effects art director: ILM)

ILM = Industry Light & Magic?

Sounds interesting :)

Yes, ILM is impressive, but those are visual effects credits, not directorship of a whole film. I was reffering to his directing credits.

Edit: due to the fact that the effects house responsible for the show no longer exists, who do you think they witt get for the special effects? I'm personally hoping for ILM or the guys from LOTR (weta?)

[RubberEagle]

Originally posted by Akrovah
I'm personally hoping for ILM or the guys from LOTR (weta?)

Those are actually the two Effects houses that they were negotiating with a few months back...

[spessu]

Absolutely great news!

[Konrad]

Dances around the office! :D Woooot!

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Akrovah
Yes, ILM is impressive, but those are visual effects credits, not directorship of a whole film. I was reffering to his directing credits.

Edit: due to the fact that the effects house responsible for the show no longer exists, who do you think they witt get for the special effects? I'm personally hoping for ILM or the guys from LOTR (weta?)


go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta, go weta,

[PSI-KILLER]

Its been sooo long to hear good news. Would they really release plot info soo early? That might be a cover story. But anyway



WOOOOOPY!

[NovaCameron]

YAY! more death! shall wait till it comes out and it shall do as good as it does. :shadow1:

[Imhotep]

Guys and gals this is GREAT news!!!

I sure if JMS was involved in picking the director the guy is full of talent!

Also I would love to see ILM do the effects...;) .

Can't wait to see more news and so forth soon...

[Banner]

:D :D :D :D :D :D :p

[Aggamemnon]

Excellent, news but I was hoping that the flim would tell the story of Sinclair after he went into the past as Valen.

[Sigma13]

Bad news from JMSNews board:
http://jmsnews.net/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=584&perpage=15&pagenumber=1
Source1:

Suddenly I'm hearing rumors from people that there's trouble with your new movie.

A friend of mine told me that Warner's getting cold feet because they only want Blockbuster hits with big stars. Isn't Babylon 5 successful enough? I know you said the DVDs sold really well. Just because it's a TV show doesn't mean it won't be a hit. Are they talking to other studios? Anyways, my friend told me that the money folks are looking for movie stars to take the place of Bruce and Mira and the rest because they think nobody'll come see TV actors. That's dumb. He says that you don't want to change the actors and that's what's holding everything up. I'm glad to hear that but now there's the news about you filming in April. Does that mean everything's okay now? I don't think I want to see it without the stars I already know.

And source2 (colonyearth who works in TV biz)

Well, I've also done some checking people and here's the word from an insider!

According to my source, this is a problem folks!

WB has suddenly in the eleventh hour decided that TMoS isn't high-profile enough since it's roots are in TV. The financiers are, according to my source, looking for big named actors over JMS's objections because they don't think fans will come out to see TV actors in a big screen film. JMS is supposedly battling on their behalf, but my source tells me that things are coming down to the wire and that a decision will have to come soon...either replace the cast with big stars in the same roles or not.

Supposedly WB is also not considering it to be big enough and are in negotiations with other studios to distribute it.

My source tells me, they're sending out casting notices on main cast...word is to prove no firestorm will come from the fanbase if this gets out and thus shut JMS up.

This means we need to make ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN a shitstorm from HELL rises from the fans!

The word I'm getting is that it's turned into a battle of wills between the financiers/WB and JMS and that they think they're going to prove JMS wrong and win that way.

They think the fans and JMS will balk and let them have their way, since they think the fans don't care.

[croxis]

omfg things are getting worse and worse. first jms commentary being edited and now this?

[Akrovah]

Originally posted by Sigma13
since they think the fans don't care.

Uhhhhhh.

Sorry, no. If this happens I may seriously consider not seeing the film.

I mean, come on. Star Trek used the actors form the shows and the majority of those movies did fairly well.

That damned Lizzle Maggurie Movie still had Hilary Duff.

Cowboy Bebop had the same voice actors. The thought of not using them caused massive fan outrage, and that probably has a smaller fan base thatn B5. What would make WB think that fans wouldn't care?

I mean to even think that fans of the show will not want to see the TV actors in a movie BASED ON THE SHOW!!! demonstraits absolutly no common sence what-so-ever and borders on a lack of fully formed cognitave reasoning. It is so preposterous a notion that I really think this may be a false report.

[Biggles]

If they recast even a single character, there would be no way in hell I'd go to see it.

[WORF]

Originally posted by Biggles
If they recast even a single character, there would be no way in hell I'd go to see it.

I was about to say that. Let's spread the word.

Worf

[Bekenn]

I agree with Akrovah; I simply don't believe a word of this report.

[WORF]

I am hoping that it is just a nasty rumor but seeing how B5 has been treated in the past means if it's true I wouldn't be surprised.

If it is true then I hope that JMS will pull the plug on the project rather than let it get ruined (even though that will probably mean the death of B5).

Just to be clear, I have no problem with new characters being introduced.

Worf

[Akrovah]

Yes, new characters are fine, but recasting of old characters is not(unless an unfourtunate death happens. I'm okay with that but am also pleased to see that JMS will still go through great lengths to avoid it.)

[Rogue Trader]

Franklin may have to be recast because of obvious reasons, but other then that they better not fucking do it!

From my reading of the synopsis it looks like the movie will be headed by a new girl character, why not cast a big name there?

[Biggles]

I also think the report is a tad suspicious, especially as WB is aware of how popular B5 is from the DVD sales. But despite that, if they're trying to get a big hit movie out of it they could try and screw with things. Remember, these are studio executives we're dealing with here, they're not the best of the bunch. :)

[Biggles]

Originally posted by Rogue Trader
Franklin may have to be recast because of obvious reasons, but other then that they better not fucking do it!

jms has already said he won't recast Franklin many times.

[WORF]

I think JMS relised the mistake of recasting Natoth after the original actress couldn't play the part anymore.

Worf

[Akrovah]

Yea, that second actress really did not do the part justice. I liked Natoth in season 1.

[WORF]

The new B5 cast as discussed on irc with a a friend of mine (before anyone has a heart attack, this is a joke).

[Matty] "Brad Pitt as Londo Mollari"
[Matty] :P
[Darth_Angelus] vin diesel as sheridan
[Darth_Angelus] eliza duskhu as delenn
[Matty] matt damon as garibaldi
[Darth_Angelus] hayden christensen as g'kar
[Matty] bruce willis as lorien
[Matty] catherine zeta jones as ivanova
[Darth_Angelus] ahmed best as kosh
[Matty] samuel l jackson as morden
[Darth_Angelus] uma thurman as talia
[Matty] oprah winfrey as lita alexander
[Darth_Angelus] arnold schwarzenegger as sinclair

Worf

[Rhett]

They better not recast anyone... That would be some bullshit... If they do, I really hope that JMS pulls the project. There is only one sheridan.

[RubberEagle]

Well, i'm only gonna believe this if it comes straight from the horses mouth...

Currently it looks too much like overreacting/anti-b5-bullshit...
funny that this rumors only came up when the newsposts about TMoS on Coming Soon etc. were made...

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by RubberEagle
Well, i'm only gonna believe this if it comes straight from the horses mouth...

Currently it looks too much like overreacting/anti-b5-bullshit...
funny that this rumors only came up when the newsposts about TMoS on Coming Soon etc. were made...


Yeah lets all believe some random fanboy's "source" Sorry, i don't buy it.

[Biggles]

What Really Happened^TM:

Exec 1: OK, so has anyone considered if we should recast some of these characters to attract more people?
Exec 2: I doubt we would get that past Straczynski easily.
Exec 3: I think the number of extra people attracted would be more than offset by the number of fans who would refuse to go and see it because their favorite characters have been recast.
Exec 4: Not to mention that we'd be villified instantly beyond forgiveness.
Exec 1: Agreed. No recasting.
Exec 5 (who secretly hates B5 because it's more popular than his show): Excellent... I can use this to cast doubt over it by saying they considered recasting some characters!

[Sigma13]

Originally posted by Entil'Zha
Yeah lets all believe some random fanboy's "source" Sorry, i don't buy it.
I would call it more than "random" fanboys rumours. So far it's coming from 4 sources and 3 of them are Jan's, Aisling's and colonyearth's industry contacts.

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Sigma13
I would call it more than "random" fanboys rumours. So far it's coming from 4 sources and 3 of them are Jan's, Aisling's and colonyearth's industry contacts.


And i believe some random "industry contact" as far as i can throw them.

this is no different than the rumors that spread in sports when someones "contact" says whats going to happen, 9 times out of 10, its total bull.

and don't you think this information would have surfaced before now? as they would have the cast in mind well before announcing the filming date.

Sorry, but until there is an official announcemnet from WB or JMS, its still all Fanboy nonsense to me.

[ShadowDancer]

Great news that its moving forward! but i think i'll wait till i hear an official announcement on the casting before getting worked up. tho i will be seriously pissed off if they do ANY recasting!

[Sigma13]

another update by Jan

Just a quick update. I just finished and IM conversation with one of the actors who partially corroborates what we've heard. S/He said that what s/he heard was the the casting breakdown sheets were for the spin-off characters (Crusade), not the original (B5) actors.

NO recasting is acceptable as long as the original artist is around to play their character.

More as I hear it.

Jan

[RubberEagle]

which basically confirms what i was suspecting.. that the "recasting" rumor came together because the original cast aren't the main characters. Someone probably observed that the "known" B5 actors like Bruce Boxleitner, Jerry Doyle, etc. weren't "starring", so they concluded that the roles must have been recast...

[WORF]

That's not quite so bad but I'd still rather have the original Crusade cast, especially for Galen.

Worf

[Biggles]

That seems a bit more believable, since the Crusade actors never got enough time to establish themselves properly. Still seems suspicious though...


http://forums.firstones.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7523

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Biggles
That seems a bit more believable, since the Crusade actors never got enough time to establish themselves properly. Still seems suspicious though...


http://forums.firstones.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7523


I'll believe it when the great and powerful Oz says its so.

[Alpha-1]

go can check http://jmsnews.com/Forums/showthread.php?threadid=584&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 to get into the matter

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Alpha-1
go can check http://jmsnews.com/Forums/showthread.php?threadid=584&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 to get into the matter

i've been following that thread, and again, not a single official word,

I just think its silly to get all worked up about things that might not even be true,

Could it be true? sure, anything's possible, but i see this happen in Baseball trades, in new Shows, in spinoffs all the time, and 99.999999% of the time, its not true.

<shrug>

[Jambo]

If it's the crusade characters, I'm all in favour of a recast!

[Biggles]

It's possible they are just recasting a character for whom the actor is unavailable. For example, one of the Crusade actors could be busy running around a desert island at the time of filming. If they wanted to have that character, then that could require either a rewrite to remove him, creative scheduling of filming, or a recast.

[Banner]

Could be Galen played by Kevin Spacey :rolleyes:

I too will wait to hear it from the horses mouth. But they can't recast it. That's like having Star Trek without William Shatner etc. I seriuosly doubt that they will do that. Especially seen in the light of the DVD sales.

[Samsomael]

Just read the thread, that was a heart attack in a handbag.

Great to hear that the movie is basically going ahead though.

I think we may be able to be paranoidly optimistic though, regarding past history of B5 projects (ITF particularly).

[Random Chaos]

Well, several things:

1. Other movies and tv series have had changes in the cast between TV to Movie or Movie to Movie transitions. This usually doesn't damage the story too much.

2. As a B5 fan I would have a big problem with them not having any actors from the series brought into the movie, even if they are in roles only seen occasionally.

3. From what I have read on JMS news and from the rumor mill arround here it seems that some of the key core characters will be people who were in at least 1 of the B5 series. I have a problem with replacing any of the core people (Sheridan, Delen, Garibaldi, G'Kar, Londo). The rest of the characters can change easily without too big an effect. Though Garibaldi can change if they simply remove references to his past and change his name; and G'Kar can be replaced by other Narns and simply not show up - but the other 3 are virtually impossible to change and not change the way the show sits.

WB better not screw things up...

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Random Chaos
Well, several things:

2. As a B5 fan I would have a big problem with them not having any actors from the series brought into the movie, even if they are in roles only seen occasionally.




This is my big problem, I honestly don't see the point in a B5 movie, if its not the cast from B5,

This is their first Forray into Feature Films, it should be the ORIG B5 cast, not Crusade, Not LOTR.

If the film is a hit, Many people who were not Exposed to B5 are going to want to watch the series, it'll be a DISASTER if they see this movie, with say the Crusade cast (orig, or recast) then say "hey i wanna watch the series" go back, watch the series and say "Wait, who are these people, where are the people from the movie"

It's a bad analogy i know, but can you imagine if, after Star Trek went off the air, and all the letter writing, and years of syndication, and building a HUGE fanbase in the 70's, if the Star Trek movie had come out. and had the Next Gen cast? the fans would have FLIPPED.

I guess i just personally don't see the point in doing a movie at all without the orig cast.

[croxis]

I disagree 100%

Star Trek had a much larger viewing base than Babylon 5 ever did. Even people who didn't watch one of the incarnations of ST at least had a basic idea of what it was. Very few people would have no clue what the phrase "Beam me up Scotty" means. Also unlike B5, ST characters did not grow or change over time.

Babylon 5 was a 5 year arc. Those who did view Babylon 5 knew each character inside and out and why they acted the way they did. We know why londo and G'Kar became friends despite the fact their two races still want to whipe each other out. If TMoS were to focus on the origonal cast it will be doomed to fail.

Like I said B5 doesn't have enough of a viewing base to make a movie a finantiall sucess like Star Trek. The movie must appeal to the general masses. Either the masses would be clueless as to what is going on or so much screen time will be needed for the backstory that everyone would be put to sleep. By making a general Sci Fi thriller that just so happens to be set in the Babylon 5 universe will give the movie, and the future of Babylon 5, a fighting chance.

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by croxis
I disagree 100%

Star Trek had a much larger viewing base than Babylon 5 ever did. Even people who didn't watch one of the incarnations of ST at least had a basic idea of what it was.



Not really as much as you'd think, yes, in the late 80's and 90's, but back in the 70's when i'm talking about the viewer base was prolly about as good as b5's.

But perhaps it wasn't as good an analogy as it cold have been

[Falcon1]

Taking those comments with a pinch of salt, I wonder if Mira Furlan and Daniel Dai Kim will be tied up with Lost? Dunno what the schedule is for that show and whether they'd have rounded up the 1st eason by April.

[RubberEagle]

The first season is allready finished. They might be shooting the second season in April though...

[Falcon1]

Right. Thats what I'm afraid of. Hmm

[Falcon1]

Also Peter Woodward could well be available as the film he's listed as in on IMDB, Closing the Ring, is supposed to be in production but apparently isn't due to changes in the UK tax laws. They've basically closed a few loop holes recently meaning it will cost alot more to film in the UK. Nice way to kill the British film industry!

All speculation anyway.

[Alpha-1]

From www.filmjerk.com <http://filmjerk.com/new//modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1130> comes more information about THE MEMORY OF SHADOWS. The article indicates that JMS (J.Michael Straczynski) had put the project on hold after Richard Bigg's death, but that it is back on track now, and will begin filming in England next April with director Steven Beck.
The story follows Diane Baker, an Earthforce Intelligence Officer whose brother is killed in an explosion. She teams up with Techno-Mage Galen, previously played by Peter Woodward but whose part is being re-cast, to find the truth behind her brother's death. They discover that dark forces are unleashing ancient Shadow technology--technology that was supposed to be guarded by Galen--and the two uncover a huge conspiracy.
So far, the only original character participating is Elizabeth Lochley, played by Tracey Scoggins. She is still the commander of Babylon 5. She is friends with Diane. Part of the action takes place on B5, as the station is taken over by Earthforce Marines, including new lead character Colonel Joss Morgan.
Galen will battle childhood friend and Techno-Mage, Tyrell. Tyrell is sort of a mercenary, with an agenda of his own

[Biggles]

So there we have it. He's probably busy filming something else at that time.

[Akrovah]

So can Film Jerk be considered official?

I rather liked Woodward's portrayal of Galen.

[Random Chaos]

Wonder who they will cast as a replacement for Galen.

Hope they have at least a couple cameos of Sheridan, et al.

[Sanfam]

no! I loved Peter Woodward. He's my favorite part about Crusade... :(

[Biggles]

Yeah, same here. He played Galen so brilliantly.

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Alpha-1


That's what all this hype is over? see this is exactly why i didn't want to get too upset over these rumors.

Yes, I liked Woodward's portrayal of Galen, but if thats all that this recasting nonsense is about, i can live with that.

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Biggles
Yeah, same here. He played Galen so brilliantly.

and has anyone posted this quote over on the jmsnews forums, where the people are still going on about the inside information etc?

[PSI-KILLER]

i just don't know

[Bekenn]

I do not want to see Galen played by anyone but Peter Woodward. Better to just make it another character if he can't be in it.

[Falcon1]

Well damn it anyway! Sorry I just can't see anybody else playing Galen. Peter Woodward is Galen. This is a real shame. So it certainly looks like that ring film has got him tied up. Curses.

[rcmodels]

am i the only person disappointed in the premise of this?

[RubberEagle]

Originally posted by rcmodels
am i the only person disappointed in the premise of this?
yes....

[Biggles]

Originally posted by rcmodels
am i the only person disappointed in the premise of this?

No. As I said to Sanfam: "But... but... Telepath War!!"

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Biggles
No. As I said to Sanfam: "But... but... Telepath War!!"

the problem i see with doing the Telepath war, is that it might confuse new viewers, Yes, they could tell the story in a way that it would make sense to people who'd never seen the show, but man, without all that buildup over 5 years, and seeing the story unfold, i don't think that it would work.

not well anyway

[Akrovah]

I tend to agree. I think the Telepath war would do best as either a book or a TV mini-seiries, something that people who didn't watch the show are not going to be as interested in watching.

(I know that souns counte rprodictive to increasing the fan base, but you really would have to have seen the show, especially season 5 to understand the build for the war better.)

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Akrovah
I tend to agree. I think the Telepath war would do best as either a book or a TV mini-seiries, something that people who didn't watch the show are not going to be as interested in watching.

(I know that souns counte rprodictive to increasing the fan base, but you really would have to have seen the show, especially season 5 to understand the build for the war better.)

Don't get me wrong, i'm DYING to learn more about the teep war, i haven't read the books, but am planning on it

I just don't think that a movie is the way to do that story

[Biggles]

That's the thing. The Telepath War isn't in the books. JMS has always said he wanted to make a movie about the Telepath War and the books skip right over it, probably for that very reason.

[croxis]

maybe it could.. be.. a second movie?

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Biggles
That's the thing. The Telepath War isn't in the books. JMS has always said he wanted to make a movie about the Telepath War and the books skip right over it, probably for that very reason.
Ahh, i thought there was stuff in the books about it, i stand corrected

well sit corrected anyway

[Biggles]

The books deal with the lead up to and fall out from it, but not the actual war.

(Still worth reading, by the way. Really, really good books.)

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Biggles
The books deal with the lead up to and fall out from it, but not the actual war.

(Still worth reading, by the way. Really, really good books.)

Yeah, i keep meaning to pick them up, but my current "to read" list has me buried in books until, Oh about 2265...

[Capt.Montoya]

Originally posted by Entil'Zha
and has anyone posted this quote over on the jmsnews forums, where the people are still going on about the inside information etc? Entil'Zha, as a simple Captain of WhiteStar #27 I should respectfully report to you that indeed the Rangers have reported this at that forum, and most of us headquartered there have agreed that if Woodward is unavailable a new Galen would be acceptable. The concern that other characters might be recast not because of scheduling conflicts but because of studio suits whims, likely against the Great maker wishes, remains.

(no sarcasm nor disrespect meant, especially since I'm a newbie here, I just found it funny that I took the name of a white star captain and am replying to someone named Entil'Zha and ran away with it for artistic license)

I think it would be sad not seeing Peter Woodward in B5:TMoS (he is Galen to me) but if it's against his wishes and/or contractual obligations I can live with that. I won't repeat here my rants about why I believe the rumors, which I posted at the B5 forums.

BTW, Like you Entil'Zha I also have an extensive "to read" list, which for good or bad is mostly SF. But I have read the B5 tie in books and found them very good.

[Dunedain]

While the idea of a Babylon 5 big screen movie has been something that we fans have long hoped for,
I certainly hope all involved in the project have learned their lessons about what it is the Babylon 5
fans want. Which is to have a *Babylon 5* movie, not something that's sort of like Babylon 5,
but a continuation of the story we all like so much. Not like Crusade, or, heaven forbid,
the truly horrible legend of the rangers.

That means all the main Babylon 5 characters all being played by the same actors, and being
the main central characters of the story, not just in secondary or supporting roles, but the starring
roles in the movie, just like in the series. If they don't so this, it isn't a Babylon 5 movie. And it
will suffer greatly at the theater ticket sales and in video sales for it.

And as far as the rumors of recasting, all I can say is that I will not even consider watching the movie
if Sheridan, Garibaldi, Delenn, Londo, G'Kar, Vir, Bester, etc. are not played by the same people.
It would simply not be believable at all. It would be like trying to have Kirk or Spock or Bones or
Scotty played by other people in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan. The fans would never accept
such a thing. And the Babylon 5 fans won't either.

[croxis]

I still diagree that the movie should center around the cast we know and love for reasons i mentioned in previous posts of mine.

[Entil'Zha]

Originally posted by Capt.Montoya

I think it would be sad not seeing Peter Woodward in B5:TMoS (he is Galen to me) but if it's against his wishes and/or contractual obligations I can live with that. I won't repeat here my rants about why I believe the rumors, which I posted at the B5 forums.

BTW, Like you Entil'Zha I also have an extensive "to read" list, which for good or bad is mostly SF. But I have read the B5 tie in books and found them very good.

I tend to agree that i'd rather see Woodward in the roll and if they can't get him, i don't think it would be too hard to use a different Technomage, i rather liked Woodward's portrayal.

As for the booklist, I just keep getting farther and farther behind, most of it is Sci-Fi/Fantasy , but there are some other things in there as well, a few older Robert Ludlum novels, and the like, and the new Michael Crichton just came out..

I'm never gonna catch up

Oh and of course, i didn't see any disrespect in your post :)

[Alpha-1]

source: http://www.myentertainmentworld.com/mew/audition_newlisting.html

(UK) - Send pictures & resume ASAP to: Details Are only Available By Subscription.. Title: BABYLON 5: THE MEMORY OF SHADOWS. EXEC PROD, Adam W. Rosen, Doug Netter; PROD, Alain Gottesman, J. Michael Straczynski; DIR, Steven Beck; SCR, J. Michael Straczynski; CSTG, Donald Paul Pemrick, Dean Fronk. Shoot Dates: Early April, 2005 (in UK). Breakdown-- Diane Baker: Late 20s or early 30s. A bright and attractive woman. She's an Earthforce Intelligence Officer in civilian clothes who is reputed to be one of the best agents in the service. When her beloved brother is killed in a mysterious explosion on his spacecraft, Diane sets out to learn what caused the tragedy. She suspects a top-level cover-up - but before she can get to the root of the problem, she is herself accused of conspiracy and murder. Despite the efforts of her friend, Elizabeth Lochley, to shield her, Diane finds herself behind bars, prey to a corrupt official who will stop at nothing to protect his greedy self-interest. But to Diane's amazement, the remarkable Galen, a techno-mage of near-supernatural skill and daring, enlists her help in unraveling the real mystery behind the recent deaths. Their investigation reveals that an ancient technology perfected by the mystic extinct Shadow race is being unleashed upon mankind by some as yet unknown conspirator. Once unleashed, the huge and all powerful shadow vessels could enslave the entire galaxy - unless quick steps are taken to avert calamity. Star Name Only. Lead; Galen: 30-45. A cloaked, mysterious figure. He appears to be human - but there's an intensity about him that bespeaks something supernaturally powerful and enigmatic. Yet there's also something wry and urbane about Galen, a suggestion that he has humor and wicked wit lurking under his inscrutable exterior. A techno-mage - one of an ancient sect that used science to perform apparently miraculous feats - Galen is the guardian left behind by his kind to ensure that the ancient Shadow technology did not fall into the wrong hands. Aghast when he realizes that his long vigilance has been violated, Galen sets out to learn who is behind the Shadow technology that now threatens the galaxy. He teams with the feisty Diane in his investigation and he comes to feel real tenderness for his human ally. A hero and a deeply moral force, Galen stands strong against the forces of corruption that have been unleashed by his own people. Star Name Only. Lead; Colonel Joss Morgan: Late 20s or early 30s. A dashing and handsome officer with the Earthforce Marines, he is the head of a security detachment sent to Babylon 5 to protect a contingent of inter-galactic diplomats who are meeting there. Humorous and daring, Morgan tries to befriend Elizabeth Lochley, the current commander of Babylon 5, but she's a bit prickly about having her jurisdiction violated by his forces. Later, Morgan and his forces prepare to battle the Hunter Killers unleashed by the evil Tyrell - a virtual suicide mission that they face with gallantry, bravery and resolve. Star Name Only. Lead; Tyrell: 35-45. Dark, enigmatic, striking and chilling, he is another techno-mage, Galen's old childhood rival, who supposedly departed for a distant sector of the galaxy years ago. Yet Tyrell has been secretly infiltrating the area, developing the ancient shadow technology and putting it on sale to the highest bidder. A deadly adversary of supernatural skill and power, he is not a rogue, as initially suspected. In fact, he is actually carrying out a mandate of his own kind. When Galen resists the corruption and madness, Tyrell prepares to battle him to the death. Star Name Only. Lead. (Posted: December 13, 2004)

[croxis]

*cough* paragraph that please! */cough*

[Akrovah]

I do no remember clearly, was Tyrell in the technomage books? The name is familiar but I can not put a finger on where I have heard it in B5. (I instantly think of the Tyrell corporation from Blade Runner.)

[Rhett]

Originally posted by Akrovah
I do no remember clearly, was Tyrell in the technomage books? The name is familiar but I can not put a finger on where I have heard it in B5. (I instantly think of the Tyrell corporation from Blade Runner.)

My guess is that he was in the books, I just cant remember at the moment... Been a while since I read trhough them.

[Bekenn]

I'm pretty sure he wasn't in the books.

This casting call sure looks real enough; I note that it lists no known characters for casting other than Galen.

[David of Mac]

Originally posted by Akrovah
I do no remember clearly, was Tyrell in the technomage books? The name is familiar but I can not put a finger on where I have heard it in B5. (I instantly think of the Tyrell corporation from Blade Runner.)

The evil Centauri demi-mage in the books had a "T" name, I think. But it can't be him, because I seem to recall Galen crushing him into nothingness after the fan-headed bastard pissed him off a just little too much.

[Akrovah]

Yes, I remeber him. His name was Tilar if IRC.

Now that I think about it, I think Bekenn is right and he is not in the books. Which doesnt make much sence if he was a childhood nemesis of Galen's you think he would have been at least mentioned.

[David of Mac]

Indeed. Even the Mages from the Centauri Prime books got a couple of lines.

[Daboan]

Ahh at last my Walkabout can end at it will be Cristmas afterall :D