www.babylon5.com reopened! [Archive]

Falcon1

31 May 2007, 02:48 AM

Oh and there's a myspace page up now as well:

http://www.myspace.com/184721956

Check out the 3rd video, it looks new to me, never seen it before. Its got a nice voice over from G'Kar. Doesn't seem like the whole thing though, kinda stops short.

Biggles

31 May 2007, 03:15 AM

Wow, that front trailer for B5 is astonishingly bad.

Messiah

31 May 2007, 03:37 AM

Sockpuppeteering eh?

Falcon1

31 May 2007, 03:45 AM

Sure is, I mean have they not heard of Flash Video Encoder? I could do better than that.

HuntSmacker

31 May 2007, 04:20 AM

G'Kars head looks pretty funny at the end there ;)

David of Mac

31 May 2007, 11:23 AM

I believe that video is the low-res version of the opening sequence shown at that convention a few months ago.

No idea why it's up. As far as I know, the final version had been completed back then, so its an open question why they're still showing the rough cut.

ShadowDancer

31 May 2007, 04:20 PM

Damn those images of the new model station look fracking awesome!! Absolutely beautiful!

Edit: Just as an aside, do you reckon if TLT goes really well and they commission more, might we see something about Marcus?

David of Mac

31 May 2007, 04:58 PM

Well, depends how Lost they want to go with The Lost Tales. In the books and short stories, we've seen the Shadow attack where his brother was killed, and his eventual revivification, which are the two most obvious places to do a Marcus story.

So they could either adapt one of those (or totally ignore them and do a new take on the subject), or they could do a story set during the run of the show where he could appear (I still have my fingers crossed to see what it was going on with the data crystal hidden inside the dead cat).

Seafroggys

31 May 2007, 09:01 PM

that third video was too intense, I couldn't watch the beginning.

Did the totally redo the....end....with modern CGI?

Mr_Bester

31 May 2007, 09:50 PM

Damn those images of the new model station look fracking awesome!! Absolutely beautiful!

Is the model from the trailer which is up. If so, Fabio did a great job....

David of Mac

31 May 2007, 11:34 PM

Did the totally redo the....end....with modern CGI?

Yes, that sequence is a complete re-creation. It doesn't quite explode the same way.

HuntSmacker

1 June 2007, 03:03 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-kWFY0DPcE

RubberEagle

1 June 2007, 04:41 AM

I need to get home to a PC with a FRACKING SOUND CARD!!!!!!!

Falcon1

1 June 2007, 05:15 AM

Darn it we need an uncut version. It amazes me that this was never leaked when it was shown at that comic con.

Falcon1

1 June 2007, 07:23 AM

OMGOMGOMG THE TRAILER IS UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And it looks stunning! Oh boy oh boy!!!

samuelk

1 June 2007, 07:47 AM

I have to say that the most impressive scene from the trailer is the final shot of Sheridan in the Starfury. I've been waiting so long for a shot like that; it's glad to see that they can do the virtual cockpit with a real actor composited into the shot without having to keep the camera locked down.

Great stuff.

Falcon1

1 June 2007, 08:10 AM

Yeah it sure is. It actually looks real and as you say not using the locked position camera just makes it so much better.

ShadowDancer

1 June 2007, 10:58 AM

Frack that trailer looks awesome! Those CGI shots are incredible, I cant wait to see what they've done inside the station especially

croxis

1 June 2007, 12:47 PM

*whimper* We need a bigger version!

Is there a more complete version of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-kWFY0DPcE

It seems cut off

WORF

1 June 2007, 01:22 PM

What Croxis said.

Worf

Seafroggys

1 June 2007, 04:22 PM

mmmm *imagines central hydroponics gardens*

Messiah

1 June 2007, 07:07 PM

All I can say is ...

Sanfam

1 June 2007, 08:34 PM

Bigger! Ahhhh!

Space Ghost

1 June 2007, 11:24 PM

YAY! WARLOCKS!!! Small spoiler. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYgioi0nRQc&mode=related&search=)

HuntSmacker

2 June 2007, 05:46 AM

I want a download of that trailer (highres) :D :D

Falcon1

2 June 2007, 06:26 AM

Yup 1080p or nothin :d

Falcon1

2 June 2007, 01:35 PM

Btw here's the background image from the myspace page:

http://216.70.73.116/babylon5/myspace/babylonbg-high.jpg

You can see more of the detail on the station. Looks much more "mechanical" imo.

Biggles

2 June 2007, 04:33 PM

That looks bloody awesome!

Space Ghost

2 June 2007, 10:16 PM

Indeed. It's amazing how far CGI has come in 10 years!

Random Chaos

2 June 2007, 10:34 PM

Me want. Now. Not in 2 months. NOW!

Space Ghost

2 June 2007, 10:36 PM

I agree. Its been far too long! ;)

Capt.Montoya

2 June 2007, 10:46 PM

ah, it's been so long!

Finally some new B5 to look forward to.

The trailer is good, a well done teaser for B5 fans.

And that "temp" video at the MySpace page... sad, yet uplifting.

Babylon 5, Babylon 5... endures.

David of Mac

2 June 2007, 11:17 PM

Imhotep

3 June 2007, 11:35 AM

Very impressive CGI after 10 years. I can't wait. I hope the next 2 months go quickly.

Jambo

3 June 2007, 06:58 PM

Holy shit. Holy... shit. Shitting shit that's holy.

I decided to take a closer look at the wingart on that Starfury that buzzes the camera at the beginning of the battle scene, just to see what it was, and after hitting the freeze frame, I saw that the art was very, very familiar.

Holy shit.
Heh, I think I noticed that two, although the video is such piss-poor quality that I couldn't be sure!

samuelk

4 June 2007, 09:10 AM

Holy shit. Holy... shit. Shitting shit that's holy.

I decided to take a closer look at the wingart on that Starfury that buzzes the camera at the beginning of the battle scene, just to see what it was, and after hitting the freeze frame, I saw that the art was very, very familiar.

Holy shit.

What's the wing art?

EDIT: HOLY CRAP, that's the boxing aardvark wing art I created! Awesome! After the DVD is released, I may try to get in touch with someone at Atmosphere to see if I can get a high-res version of that shot....

WORF

4 June 2007, 10:23 AM

Very nice Samuelk! :D

EDIT: That's a GREEN Aardvark too ;)

EDIT2: Screenshot!

http://www.bathtub-productions.com/tltscreenshot.jpg

Worf

RubberEagle

4 June 2007, 10:50 AM

What's the wing art?

EDIT: HOLY CRAP, that's the boxing aardvark wing art I created! Awesome! After the DVD is released, I may try to get in touch with someone at Zoic to see if I can get a high-res version of that shot....
Congrats on making it into the show ;)

afaik Atmosphere is doing the VFX, not Zoic

samuelk

4 June 2007, 11:23 AM

Hmmm...maybe there's more than one FX studio working on TLT. According to IMDB, there are some Zoic people working on the show.

Freejack

4 June 2007, 11:37 AM

Where did they (whomever "they" may turn out to be) pick your image up from?

Jake

samuelk

4 June 2007, 12:25 PM

Here's what I'm guessing happened.

Back in 2001, Slade -- who is a forum member and also an FX guru working on The Legend of the Rangers -- asked for people to submit designs for FirstOnes wing art, so he could put it on a StarFury and use it in the LotR series (if it ever came to be, which it of course didn't).

My guess is that the Aardvark art was added to a library of B5 image assets which would be property of Warner Brothers. When production on The Lost Tales began, WB handed over the image library to the new FX studio, and they pulled it from there.

I dunno, though...maybe Slade worked on The Lost Tales? FX artists tend to jump around from studio to studio, just like in any other career.

samuelk

4 June 2007, 12:28 PM

I did some searching, and as it turns out, Slade works for Atmosphere VFX.

I think that answers that. :)

samuelk

4 June 2007, 01:39 PM

Well, Slade sent me an e-mail confirming that he added the aardvark to the fury. Awesome.

HuntSmacker

4 June 2007, 01:44 PM

Now just to slip in a firstones line of text somewhere.. ;) ;)

Sergei S

4 June 2007, 02:13 PM

may try to get in touch with someone at Zoic to see if I can get a high-res version of that shot....
Zoic has nothing to do with B5TLT, it's Atmosphere VFX.

samuelk

4 June 2007, 02:39 PM

Yeah, we've established that. Though you're wrong about Zoic having nothing to do with TLT. They DID do some shots for TLT towards the end of production because Atmosphere was too busy.

Messiah

4 June 2007, 02:51 PM

Holy shit. So now your firstones logo is canon. Holy mother of zombie jeebus.

Thanks Slade. :)

WORF

4 June 2007, 03:42 PM

I can't help wondering if we'll see any others that were sneaked in ;)

Worf

Random Chaos

4 June 2007, 04:27 PM

Could you ask him who's starfury you got the wingart on? Is it someone major? :D

HuntSmacker

4 June 2007, 05:15 PM

Well since that particular Starfury plows into a Centauri Battlecruiser after being winged, I doubt... :P

Random Chaos

4 June 2007, 05:20 PM

Well clearly it can't be a good pilot. It endorses green.

samuelk

4 June 2007, 06:27 PM

Well since that particular Starfury plows into a Centauri Battlecruiser after being winged, I doubt... :P

It's a dream sequence, so you never know.

But I doubt it's anyone significant. It's probably just a random fighter. I'd imagine that JMS's notes (or the director's) notes for the CGI artists would be pretty strict about the design of major character's Starfuries.

Biggles

4 June 2007, 08:13 PM

Congrats, Sam! :D

We need to make sure this all gets noted in TGM, and at midwinter as well. :)

HuntSmacker

5 June 2007, 03:12 AM

It's a dream sequence, so you never know.

And you know how JMS' dream sequences can turn out :P

Sanfam

5 June 2007, 03:24 AM

Now for the real fun part: I wonder if any of the other submissions made it in as wingart? Oh, this will be one hell of a freeze-frame session once it comes out :D

So the work of one of our members was featured in a B5 release, as entered into it by yet another member. Does that make us famous yet? Congrats, Sam. There must have truly been an interesting expression on your face when you found out.

croxis

5 June 2007, 11:32 AM

We must set up webcams on every computer to record people's expression when their art appears on starfuries!

Falcon1

12 June 2007, 06:30 AM

Sam thats uber cool dude! You must be on cloud 9 :) I do remember that call for wingart, that was quite a while ago now. I bet you'll be wearing out the pause/playback buttons once you get the dvd ;)

Nice to see GREEN on the screen even if it does get splatted onto a Vorchan :D

Mundane

12 June 2007, 01:46 PM

Fantastic :)

WORF

12 June 2007, 04:13 PM

Notice the Vorchan is purple.

There's no extreme we greens won't go to in order to wipe out the purples! :)

Worf

C_Mon

12 June 2007, 04:38 PM

Sweet! And even Sweeeter about the wing art thing. :D

El-Diablo

12 June 2007, 06:33 PM

Yeah, totally awesome! Congratulations samuelk!

shadow boxer

30 June 2007, 09:16 AM

*sigh*

no raining on Sam's parade... but sheesh....

*looks forlornly across at his dusty cobwebbed paintshop*

shadow boxer

30 June 2007, 09:17 AM

Are the toes pointing down like I suggested ? (to add the feeling of suspension from the jetpack, remember ? :) ), screencap isn't brill...

JackN

1 July 2007, 02:02 AM

...When production on The Lost Tales began, WB handed over the image library to the new FX studio, and they pulled it from there...

Heh, Warner Brother? I have serious reservations about their commitment to saving a library of B5 related stuff... :p

Falcon1

2 July 2007, 10:23 AM

Indeed... I'm sure that when they handed over the library it had holes in the box housing a family of rodents ;)

Freeze

8 July 2007, 04:44 AM

So where are these trailers available for download, people? Preferably not YouTube :D

*wants badly to see the upgraded watercoolers*

HuntSmacker

19 July 2007, 03:10 PM

Ah new wallpapers. Hadn't spotted those :)

samuelk

19 July 2007, 09:10 PM

Browsing through the site, I noticed that the picture of President Clark in the "Cast & Crew - Supporting Cast" section is actually a picture of Bruce Gray, who played Sheridan's interrogator in the 4th season episode "Intersections in Real Time".